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Emilio Estevez adapted S.E. Hinton's teen coming-of-age novel for the screen in this film adaptation directed by Christopher Cain. Estevez also takes the lead role of Mark Jennings, a troubled teenage... read more read more...r who has been living with his best friend Byron Douglas (Craig Sheffer) and his mother (Barbara Babcock) ever since his father went to prison for murdering his mother. Byron is like a brother to Mark and the two grow very close. But as the two best pals grow into young men in high school, Byron begins to think more seriously about life after high school. He also starts to spend more time away from Mark and with the more mature Cathy (Kim Delany). Jealous of Cathy and fearful of losing Byron, Mark becomes more and more erratic and rebellious. ~ Paul Brenner, Rovi

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R, 1 hr. 42 min.

Directed by: Christopher Cain

Release Date: November 8, 1985

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DVD Release Date: October 14, 2003

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  • January 20, 2011
    An okay teenage drug drama movie with a good cast and interesting characters, but I hate the ending. This movie disappointed me. It's okay, but not good.
  • October 16, 2008
    I remember going to this when it came out in the theaters. 1985? I was 10 and thought it blew goat. don't think I will watch again.
  • January 26, 2010
    This movie has a lot of drama going on, and creates good characters, but we aren't given a solid resolution to their conflicts, and there are many loose ends. The acting was good, though, the characters had this feeling like they were going somewhere, and all but the main charact... read moreer end up somewhere. This isn't a satisfactory ending for a movie like this!
  • June 18, 2008
    Come on, it was made here in Mn & some scenes were shot blocks from my home, how can't it not be 4 stars!
  • February 6, 2008
    Pretty good overall, though they should have used Jill Schoelen more in this film. She's only in like 2 scenes which is probably why flixter didn't give her any credit for this one. She was hot back in the day.
  • October 9, 2007
    on ok drama but to me updating the story line to present period from the story line of the book just did not work well.
  • May 10, 2007
    The movie was so far off from the book that it gave me cancer. The acting was so bad, I became comatose.

Critic Reviews


Frederic and Mary Ann Brussat
August 21, 2004
Frederic and Mary Ann Brussat, Spirituality and Practice

A morose melodrama about adolescent experiences.

March 26, 2009
Variety

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David Ansen
March 31, 2008
David Ansen, Newsweek

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July 3, 2004
Chicago Reader

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Vincent Canby
July 3, 2004
Vincent Canby, New York Times

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Emanuel Levy
June 19, 2005
Emanuel Levy, EmanuelLevy.Com

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Clint Morris
May 6, 2005
Clint Morris, Film Threat

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Philip Martin
February 5, 2005
Philip Martin, Arkansas Democrat-Gazette

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Andy Klein
November 23, 2004
Andy Klein, Los Angeles CityBeat

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Geoff Andrew
June 24, 2006
Geoff Andrew, Time Out

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